honestly? straight men don’t even like women, they like the false and idealized versions of women they see in porn and on tv. they talk about real women (even their wives and girlfriends!) with thinly veiled disgust and condescension because they’d rather have sentient sex dolls than living, breathing human women with personalities and opinions. women love women better than men do because we actually love women.
just so you all know! this post has nothing to do with my own dating life (which is fine, not that i owe anybody an explanation) or that of any other woman (which is none of my business, unless we’re friends and they specifically ask me for input), but was made after a series of incidents in which men hit on/harassed me in ways that made it clear to me that they had far less interest in my personhood than in whatever porny fantasies they felt they could slot me into. it’s not that i don’t think men can do better, it’s that you all consistently choose not to! lmao but hey! i guess it’s a lot easier to believe a woman is a judgmental incel bitch than that misogyny shapes interpersonal relationships, huh?
A while back on twitter or some shit a bunch of dudes were discussing how it took them until their twenties to see women as actual people. Also the notes on this are hilarious, who are y’all trying to convince? 🤔
the amount of “not all men” comments on this is…honestly not surprising
Of course it isn’t surprising. If you made a post about how some other group than men are terrible, people would rush to either defend that group or say that they’re not like other members of the group.
For instance, black men, whose perceived hypermasculinization puts them at greater risk not only when around cops, but increases the odds someone calling the cops on them for no reason at all. White men are already treated as threatening relative to women. Black men are treated as even more threatening.
Why is it that the feminist movement has had some of its own #metoo moments with prominent male feminists?
Because embracing this idea that men are all bad is not fuckin’ healthy for men. That leaves you with honest men that you’re inflicting with depression risk just so you can feel good about yourself… and liars.
If you’re lucky the liar is a man who isn’t dangerous but just doesn’t take women’s opinions on feminism all that seriously, so he echoes the platitudes while internally smirking to himself. Some of the more buff husband material “feminist” dudes probably fall into this category.
A predator is perfectly capable of mouthing the platitudes because he also doesn’t give a shit what women think. In fact, he can be even better at it because he doesn’t give a shit what men think, either.
(The response is invariably “WE NEED MORE FEMINISM!” but what is actually needed is different Feminism.)
Now, are there guys who hit on people they shouldn’t hit on?
Yeah. But there’s another filtering effect.
1. Feminist dating advice is basically a long list of donts, and you’re unlikely to notice men who don’t hit on you. If a man takes the advice seriously enough to get it from more than one source, he generally won’t ask women out at all, because each woman has different donts.
Since it precludes asking women out in general, only men who ignore it will have much hope of success, because it is very rare that a woman asks out a man.
…that also means that many men will eventually give up on it.
2. Some guys can break all the rules and still be successful because some women want them to. This reinforces the pattern in others because so much of dating is bullshit.
However, acknowledging this doesn’t fly so well.
But yeah. “Why are these people we’re insulting objecting to being insulted?” indeed.